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Post by imbeta305 on Dec 4, 2013 18:54:32 GMT 8
May I know what are the necessary steps in order to paint? Sifus please give me some advice  |
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Post by Phoon on Dec 5, 2013 12:06:44 GMT 8
your question can be more precise for better understanding.
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Post by banzai on Dec 5, 2013 12:36:49 GMT 8
The painting process can be long and involved as you want it to be depending on the results you want to achieve. A more thought out question is necessary. Simply slapping paint on a kit is simple... Grab a brush or airbrush, mix your paint+reducer/thinner and start slapping paint on. Even dipping an entire kit in whitewash is still considered "painting" to a certain degree.
Essentially that's what painting is, slapping paint over a surface to change the colour but there's so many nuances in the process that produce different results that simply asking "Please tell me the necessary steps for painting" is a very very broad question that is difficult to answer. It will just raise more questions in return. For example...
1) What kind of subject are you painting? Is realistic scale and appearance important? Is there camouflage? Will there be masking involved? Are there metal photo-etched parts in the kit? Is it resin, polystyrene or other kinds of materials like wood or styrofoam?
2) What kind of finish were you thinking of simulating? Gloss? Semi-Gloss? Flat? Metallic? Rusted? Scratched and worn? Laser scorched? Riddled with bullet holes? Cracked from exposure? Wet? Dry? Sandblasted in the desert? Sun bleached? I could go on and on...
3) What kind of equipment do you have access to? Have you ever painted a model before? What kind of paint were you thinking of? Are you comfortable with an airbrush? Are you comfortable with normal brush painting? How about spray cans?
As you can see just asking "Please tell me the necessary steps for painting" is a difficult question for anyone to answer without you providing more specifics about what you're trying to achieve on what subject. So think and ask yourself the questions you want answered. I'm sure when you have more specifics in mind then more specific answers can be provided.
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Post by imbeta305 on Dec 5, 2013 14:40:14 GMT 8
>< hai. never thought it this subject would be that wide. GOMEN!
okay first off I just started gunpla-ing. and I havent tried painting a normal part before, let alone a kit.
So i just got my banshee ver ka. and i was hoping to paint it black. (semi gloss) and hand brush the beam magnums. ( i dont have an ab)
This will just be basic painting since its my first time doing it. and for now, what I want to know is, what kind of spray cans to use, what paint to get for brush painting, the sequence of those process.
i hope this is enough info
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Post by gollum3 on Dec 5, 2013 14:46:03 GMT 8
basic paint process is primer, then paint, then gloss let me break down the paint skills like an RPG game start with level 1 gundam markers (after u gain enough XP, u upgrade to lvl 2) level 2 mr color acrylic/lacquer paint (after u gain enough XP, u upgrade to lvl 3) level 3 spray cans level 4 airbrush what lvl are u now? im at lvl 3 |
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Post by gollum3 on Dec 5, 2013 14:50:15 GMT 8
do not paint on your beloved banshee first
get a cheaper SD or FG grade or gashapon or any cheap big big childrens toy to paint first!!!
go to 7 eleven or street markets and buy any cheap plastic toy to learn painting and gain XP
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Post by banzai on Dec 5, 2013 16:27:19 GMT 8
I agree with Gollum3. Get a cheaper kit, an SD is a good choice since they are usually cheaper... If you're not the type to get bored easily you could use what a lot of us use when experimenting with colour combinations or new products... Paint plastic spoons! Plastic spoons are the cheapest! Of course they aren't quite as interesting, but a spoon has a great combination of curved and straight planar surfaces that help you judge how your painting will appear on different topology.
Skills you pick up while learning to paint with a brush you will stay with you... I don't know many modellers that exclusively airbrush everything. Right tool for the right situation. I wouldn't airbrush an extremely small detail if I can brush paint it easier. Conversely If I wanted a smoother, more even finish on a large area I wouldn't hand brush if I had an airbrush handy or a spray can. If I had to paint an EXTREMELY large surface like for example a motorcycle helmet, I'd probably pull out a large industrial size spray gun. Correct tool for the desired result. This applies to paint somewhat as well but that's when you're dealing with more unorthodox surfaces. There was a painting I did where I was painting on human hair! It was an extremely difficult surface to work with and it required some creativity deciding what kind of paint to use.
Before you begin I think your first step needs to be familiarizing yourself with the tools used for painting. Then familiarize yourself with the different paints you can use. Next, familiarize yourself with the surface and how your paint reacts to it, in your case - Polystyrene. Finally... Practice, practice, practice! Don't be afraid to make mistakes. Practice will inevitably lead to questions, which will lead you... Back here!
*Edit - The final thing that you should learn about painting cannot be taught. You'll need to be patient. Patience with the process, and patience with yourself when you make mistakes.
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Post by imbeta305 on Dec 5, 2013 18:58:50 GMT 8
basic paint process is primer, then paint, then gloss let me break down the paint skills like an RPG game start with level 1 gundam markers (after u gain enough XP, u upgrade to lvl 2) level 2 mr color acrylic/lacquer paint (after u gain enough XP, u upgrade to lvl 3) level 3 spray cans level 4 airbrush what lvl are u now? im at lvl 3 haha, Im currently at level 1, all that i have experienced with markers are just touching up (dotting on nub marks), havent really tried colouring the entire piece with marker. But i think markers are straight forward enough so time to move on to level 2?? |
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Post by imbeta305 on Dec 5, 2013 18:59:52 GMT 8
I agree with Gollum3. Get a cheaper kit, an SD is a good choice since they are usually cheaper... If you're not the type to get bored easily you could use what a lot of us use when experimenting with colour combinations or new products... Paint plastic spoons! Plastic spoons are the cheapest! Of course they aren't quite as interesting, but a spoon has a great combination of curved and straight planar surfaces that help you judge how your painting will appear on different topology. Skills you pick up while learning to paint with a brush you will stay with you... I don't know many modellers that exclusively airbrush everything. Right tool for the right situation. I wouldn't airbrush an extremely small detail if I can brush paint it easier. Conversely If I wanted a smoother, more even finish on a large area I wouldn't hand brush if I had an airbrush handy or a spray can. If I had to paint an EXTREMELY large surface like for example a motorcycle helmet, I'd probably pull out a large industrial size spray gun. Correct tool for the desired result. This applies to paint somewhat as well but that's when you're dealing with more unorthodox surfaces. There was a painting I did where I was painting on human hair! It was an extremely difficult surface to work with and it required some creativity deciding what kind of paint to use. Before you begin I think your first step needs to be familiarizing yourself with the tools used for painting. Then familiarize yourself with the different paints you can use. Next, familiarize yourself with the surface and how your paint reacts to it, in your case - Polystyrene. Finally... Practice, practice, practice! Don't be afraid to make mistakes. Practice will inevitably lead to questions, which will lead you... Back here! *Edit - The final thing that you should learn about painting cannot be taught. You'll need to be patient. Patience with the process, and patience with yourself when you make mistakes. ill definitely keep your advice in mind. thank you =) |
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Post by gollum3 on Dec 5, 2013 19:43:28 GMT 8
TS, u use gundam markers on nub marks?? why u do that? dont u sand away/cut away nub marks?
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Post by imbeta305 on Dec 5, 2013 22:27:51 GMT 8
TS, u use gundam markers on nub marks?? why u do that? dont u sand away/cut away nub marks? yea i do cut and then sand them away. but scratches remains. thats why |
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Post by gollum3 on Dec 5, 2013 22:50:21 GMT 8
you can sand it further to make scracthes dissappear or very tiny little dot. after sanding, use ur finger or nail go through the surface, feel the surface, if you feel not smooth, u must sand further.
use gundam marker on tiny pieces or medium-size surface to gain (gundam marker skill XP)
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Post by imbeta305 on Dec 6, 2013 8:58:32 GMT 8
Im using a 1200 grit sand paper to sand them, the surface is smooth but there are scratch markings. Im planning to do a semi gloss finish on my banshee. Would the semi gloss magnify all these scratches? ( i mean is there anyway to handle these marks first before i proceed to coating them)
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Post by gollum3 on Dec 6, 2013 23:36:31 GMT 8
TS, please see these videos www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyzqjTesJ-Qwww.youtube.com/watch?v=zJmPRnelZAYthat guy is Master Kawaguchi. Master Kawaguchi is considered as the most famous person in the world of Gunpla. Hope this helps. if still have scratch markings, you would have to cover with primer. then paint, then semi-gloss. once u covered it with primer, it is invinsible |
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